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Distance charging replacing fuel excise

Started by verbatim9, May 15, 2022, 20:01:04 PM

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verbatim9

Abc---> New electric car taxes and rebates revealed for Western Australia

QuoteNew electric car taxes and incentives have been rolled out simultaneously in Western Australia – alongside a plan to expand the state's charging network.

From 2027 electric and hydrogen vehicle owners will be charged 2.5 cents per kilometre to make up for fuel excise losses. Hybrid cars will pay two cents.

Covering the average annual distance of 15,000km, this equates to a $375 bill for motorists in electric or hydrogen cars and $300 for hybrid drivers

ozbob

^ inevitable as fuel excise starts to fall as pointed out by us and others years ago.

WA has their act together.  Well done. 
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SurfRail

This should be simple to implement.  Cars should be required to be inspected and given roadworthies at least once annually anyway (I find it slightly incomprehensible this isn't already the case), so "read the meter" at the same time.
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Jonno

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The thing that needs to be addressed as part of any distanced based charge is that we have allowed our cities to be built where it is highly inconvenient/difficult to work, shop and/or play without driving and/or people have been allowed to live a long way from where they work.  Thus those already in financial hardship by being forced to own and use 2 or more cars for every trip are now being charged the most.  This charge can only be implemented alongside a complete overhaul of (1) the public transport network so that it is easier/cheaper to travel by public transport and (2) our planning/local design guidelines to create 15min Neighbouhoods in every suburb.  To assume that our transport/city is on a level playing field to just switch to this model is not going to work.

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QuoteThe thing that needs to be addressed as part of any distanced based charge is that we have allowed our cities to be built where it is highly inconvenient/difficult to work, shop and/or play without driving and/or people have been allowed to live a long way from where they work.  Thus those already in financial hardship by being forced to own and use 2 or more cars for every trip are now being charged the most.  This charge can only be implemented alongside a complete overhaul of (1) the public transport network so that it is easier/cheaper to travel by public transport and (2) our planning/local design guidelines to create 15min Neighbouhoods in every suburb.  To assume that our transport/city is on a level playing field to just switch to this model is not going to work.

I think charges are the missing link in transport policy. Subsidising motorists has been good politics for a long time, and I think this will now curb the effect of Car Rapid Transport initiatives. It will also incentivise work from home, PT use and moving to closer areas without forcing it.

I do think RBOT should call for a boom gate and charges at Springfield Station Car Park. It will set a precedent which we can draw upon later.

I remember many years ago free car parking at shopping centres was brought in. Everyone screamed so the shopping centres did it gradually (e.g. free parking on weekends, free parking after 3 hours etc) so that it could all cross the line into reality.

Even large shopping centres realise that Car Rapid Transport is unviable and there is just no space for all those cars plus some more. They charge.
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SurfRail

Quote from: Jonno on May 16, 2022, 13:40:57 PMThe thing that needs to be addressed as part of any distanced based charge is that we have allowed our cities to be built where it is highly inconvenient/difficult to work, shop and/or play without driving and/or people have been allowed to live a long way from where they work.  Thus those already in financial hardship by being forced to own and use 2 or more cars for every trip are now being charged the most.  This charge can only be implemented alongside a complete overhaul of (1) the public transport network so that it is easier/cheaper to travel by public transport and (2) our planning/local design guidelines to create 15min Neighbouhoods in every suburb.  To assume that our transport/city is on a level playing field to just switch to this model is not going to work.

The accounting model already works this way except based on fuel consumption and excise.
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