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BUZ one route

Started by achiruel, August 15, 2015, 13:07:50 PM

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achiruel

I am interested to know, if you could BUZ one bus route, what would it be, & why?

To make it a little more interesting, it must be from your region e.g. Brisbane N/E/S/W, Ipswich, Logan/Beaudesert, Moreton, GC/SC.

Arnz

The 314!  :-r :fo:

Seriously though, my pick is Route 620 (Maroochydore station-Sunshine Plaza to Noosa Heads station.)  That should've been done by upping the 620 from every 30/7 days a week to every 15/7 days a week instead of upping the 600 from every 15 to every 12 on weekdays.
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James

Network reform gripes aside, the Centenary suburbs are crying out for a BUZ. Modified 454 would fulfil this role in the best way.

Outside of this region, I feel route 300 is the other big candidate. The more I think about it, the more amazing it is that this region of Brisbane has been so badly neglected, particularly given the amount of development going in around Hamilton, how congested KSD is and how there is no Cr Shayne Sutton effect to mysteriously cause frequent bus and ferry routes to turn around and levitate away from the area a la Bulimba.
Is it really that hard to run frequent, reliable public transport?

SurfRail

No Gold Coast route requires the parameters of a BUZ route - there is no peak direction for the most part so no 10 minute headways needed, and 15 minute headways are largely unnecessary after I would suggest around 9pm.  The resources are better spent on adding services on other routes earlier in the day rather than chasing patronage later at night.
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achiruel

Ok, maybe BUZ standard was a bit excessive.  How about we go with HF 7-7 instead?


Gazza

230.
Has the highest density of all potential BUZ routes.

SurfRail

#7
For each region:
- BT South - nil (needs a restructure first).  Easiest one might be extend the 196 to Yeronga to create "new" coverage of the HF network.
- BT East - 230
- BT North - 300
- BT West - 450-something to Centenary (needs a restructure)
- Redlands - 250
- Logan - 550 or 560
- Western - 500
- Northern - 680
- Sunshine Coast - 620
- Gold Coast - 719

I think the baseline for high frequency should be every 15 minutes from 6am-9pm 7 days a week, with half-hourly or hourly services until at least 11pm.  Routes like the 704 and 740 down here should connect to every single off-peak train, which means a few earlier and later runs.

Brisbane can support the BUZ standard so no need to fiddle too much, but it leads to silly outcomes like the 375 and similar HF routes not being depicted on the "high frequency" network map.
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pandmaster

In my area it would be the Bulimba Glider of course.

A bit more left field is the 227 (for at least HF if not BUZ). Wynnum Road is underserviced with its hourly service outside peak. Even the route were truncated in some way (say every second service from Wynnum terminated at Morningside station or every second service from the City terminated at Cannon Hill).

IMHO Norman Park ferry has some potential to grow patronage, however there is no parking and bus connections are erratic, which both of these could/would serve.

#Metro

I would say it would be a tight contest between the 230 BulimbaGlider and the 400 CentenaryGlider.

The BulimbaGlider is higher density, closer to the CBD and already has excellent pent up patronage. However the 400 CentenaryGlider has Coronation Drive, a major shopping centre, two suburban shopping centres and will act as a trunk service that other buses can feed into at Indooroopilly (hence the need for high frequency and high capacity buses - its to take the interchange passengers).

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SurfRail

I'm just amazed that all this money is still being spent buying Brisbane Transport new buses when:

- there are absolutely no service upgrades planned
- the oldest bus in regular service is only 15 years old (which is an absolute baby by Australian standards even though it would be at retirement or school-only use in other parts of the world)
- the fleet is 100% kitted out with low-entry, air-conditioned, Euro IV minimum emissions standard and electronic signage equipped buses
- there are still high-floor buses running regular services at Transdev and elderly high-floor buses running school routes all over the shop. 

If the purchasing and route planning was managed centrally and buses allocated where they were actually needed like in WA, this farce wouldn't be happening and we might see some more HF routes.  Even now, changes are still done on an operator by operator and region by region basis, which is still a case of silo thinking.
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