Transport Discrimination

[James]

Huh?  430 follows the 444 as far as Kenmore Rd/Moggill Rd.  425 doesn't have a common stop with the 444 after Indooroopilly school, same as the Centenary buses.

I was listing reasons why by and large, the only useful western suburbs routes (patronage wise) are the 425 and 444 - the rest of the routes are hourly, don't attract much patronage and all duplicate each other - hence why not suitable for BUZ, and why they do not attract much patronage.

[#Metro]

I took more driving lessons today. Wow, I can get across suburbs with absolute ease. I can't help but notice just how many buses are actually on the roads - heaps - but they are dispersed so the frequency is absolutely diluted.

This isn't rocket science guys. I can get around 2x 3x faster in a car than using PT. Fix up the network.

Drove on Logan Road today. Overtook a 172 air parcel, heaps of other crapola routes. Why can they get organised and put a fast BUZ down Logan Rd?

Fed up with PT!!

[minbrisbane]

I found this myself only just recently.

I couldn't believe it that Logan Road (inbound) does not have a BUZ beyond Klumpp/Dawson Rd.

[#Metro]

There is a job going in perth. Industrial estate. Guess what? There is a bus there and the bus connects to a train, every 30 minutes.

Different network structure = more access

Brisbane has a long way to go

[kazzac]

There is another job going in the Sumner Industrial Park. Not helpful that the BUZ slated for Centenary Suburbs is now not going ahead! I blame Graham Quirk and Peter Matic for killing the bus review. Thank you. NOT!!

So many problems if you want to get a decent job in this city and are car-free! Some jobs have a rotating shift (start different hours) so planning that by PT if it is not a BUZ would be utter hell.

I often wonder how many academics have done an analysis of jobs on websites to see just how problematic this really is.

Took my fourth driving lesson today and also signed on to the RACQ. I have also signed up for the dole. The extraordinarily low fortnightly payments (approx 500 per fortnight) and reporting requirements (have to do diary apparently and apply for a set number of jobs per fortnight / interviews) combined with the lack of actual health care card discount plus extreme fares plus crappy bus network that doesn't connect the outer suburbs properly is just the biggest welfare trap ever and something I am NOT looking forward to. Hopefully I will get a job before then.

I'm lucky though, I still have savings so next stop is passing my licence test and then perhaps getting a dodgy car for $1000 or so (still probably cheaper than translink fares in a year).

sorry to hear that,hope you find employment soon.thats why I don't want to leave a job where I have worked for 20 years.being an unskilled/blue collar worker I would find it difficult to find another job.YEs I did have to claim new start allowance for about 2 years back in '91-'93. Luckily I still lived with my parents back then,I cant remember how much Newstart was in those days.My $4000 '98 Toyota Starlet is very reliable ,uses hardly any fuel and I know I will always arrive at work on time ,using PT was too much stress ,worrying about being late for work,etc ,and the fares just keep going up!


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[ozbob]

Yes, thanks for your comments kazzac.

More and more are being forced onto the ever congesting roads.  Very significant economic impacts.  And still the refrain from George St is '  the nine after free is a roaring success '  .... 

Oh dear, what delusion!

[kazzac]

There is a job going in perth. Industrial estate. Guess what? There is a bus there and the bus connects to a train, every 30 minutes.

Different network structure = more access

Brisbane has a long way to go

If we had a proper connected network here I wouldn't need a car for commuting to work ,when will we get it right here in SEQ?15 minutes train frequency for a start and better connections between lines and cross town bus services like the GCL that would travel to outer suburbs /industrial areas where most blue collar unskilled workers work.

[ozbob]

Media release 31st May 2013



SEQ: Smart State, Smart Bus?

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport passengers has said the Melbourne Smart Bus network is a model for improving connectivity for public transport in south-east Queensland (1).

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"The radial nature of the public transport in south-east Queensland makes it difficult for connections between suburbs.  To make a connection, passengers often have to transit via the CBD.  This is very inefficient and adds to costs; fares, infrastructure and time costs. (2)"

"The TransLink bus review was an attempt to improve connectivity.  Sadly, for Brisbane, the TransLink Bus review was put aside and Brisbane City Council have been allowed to continue with their failing bus network, which largely ignores the historical flaws with the Brisbane bus network design, which is high cost, competes with other modes, and has poor connectivity, particularly across suburbs."

"TransLink should put out to competitive tender a Smart Bus network for south-east Queensland. A Smart bus network is one that complements the radial train and bus network by providing ' cross-town ' connections along major arterial roads.  These Smart Bus routes have on road priority, long span of operation and frequent services, and provide better connections to the community (1)."

"The SmartBus network in Melbourne has been an overwhelming success (3).  Time for south-east Queensland Transport agencies to break the shackles of public transport mediocrity and inaction, and get on with the job of doing it right!"

"Smart State or late State? "

References:

1. SmartBus http://corp.ptv.vic.gov.au/projects/buses/smartbus/

2. Those least likely to use public transport shouldering the cost
    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/those-least-likely-to-use-public-transport-shouldering-the-cost-20130530-2neho.html#ixzz2Uo9axcq8

3. SmartBus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmartBus

Contact:

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

[kazzac]

That's what we need here in Brisbane but of course it won't happen. A smartbus route ,more than one ,for example a route that goes from say busway at Garden CIty and travels to Coopers Plains,Acacia Ridge, than maybe to Salisbury and Moorooka .


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