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Couriermail --> More crashes than ever as South East Qld roads in congestion chokehold $

QuoteThe congestion chokehold gripping South East Queensland is causing more crashes than ever, as the state government is accused of having 'no transport plan' ahead of the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

The congestion chokehold gripping South East Queensland is causing more crashes than ever, with dangerous traffic plaguing drivers travelling north to Noosa, south to the Gold Coast and even inland to Toowoomba.

The state government has been accused of having "no transport plan" ahead of the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games, when the population is expected to reach five million. ...

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" ... RACQ head of public policy Michael Kane said the South East needed a quantum shift due to a historical lack of infrastructure planning.

"We need to build more orbital motorways around our cities, get rid of level crossings and massively improve public transport leading into our major centres," he said. "It's about the right roads in the right places ... simply building more roads won't help – we don't want to be Los Angeles. ... "

Even the RACQ sort of gets it!   

https://x.com/ozbob13/status/1703037570391986625?s

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Not hard to understand it when peak throughput for one road lane is just 1,800 vehicles/hr or 2,160 pphd. You can write whatever vision / narrative you like, that value is the ceiling.

RACQ still thinks of PT in terms of infrastructure and technology, rather than service delivery. This is not the right approach because it makes solving service issues across Brisbane conditional on buying concrete with money we do not have.

In terms of yet another M1, rail can be designed to do 160 km/hr and possibly up to 200 km/hr in QLD. This is a lot faster than a car on a motorway, and it's no contest during peak hour when cars are doing ~ 40 km/hr.

Steve Minnikin might want another M1, but that road is a permanent project. I think what's needed is an R1 not another M1.

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'Simply building more roads won't help – we don't want to be Los Angeles'

17th September 2023

Good Morning,

Is the penny finally dropping?   The Sunday Mail today "  More crashes than ever as South East Qld roads in congestion chokehold "
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/more-crashes-than-ever-as-south-east-qld-roads-in-congestion-chokehold/news-story/8dcb75f1dc80c0914771c7f483c77caf points out what we have been saying for years.

More of the same leads to more of the same transport failure. Another traffic lane, another road, leads to more induced traffic.  These are not congestion ' busters ' but congestion ' builders '.

The RACQ comments in the article:

" ... RACQ head of public policy Michael Kane said the South East needed a quantum shift due to a historical lack of infrastructure planning.

"We need to build more orbital motorways around our cities, get rid of level crossings and massively improve public transport leading into our major centres," he said. "It's about the right roads in the right places ... simply building more roads won't help – we don't want to be Los Angeles. ... "

Well when the peak motoring organisation calls out the failure you know it is serious.

Further comment in the article:

" ... The state government has been accused of having "no transport plan" ahead of the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games, when the population is expected to reach five million. ... "

The State Government and SEQ Councils need to focus more on service delivery. Infrastructure is only part of the story.  We do have a comprehensive rail network in SEQ but it is difficult to use for many because service frequency out of peaks is poor, and it is not supported properly with frequent feeder buses.  Low frequency rail connecting with low frequency bus is not encouraging for citizens to change transport behaviours.

Will we see leadership in transport or more vacuous policies?

Best wishes,
Robert

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QuoteIs the penny finally dropping?   The Sunday Mail today "  More crashes than ever as South East Qld roads in congestion chokehold "

Will get worse as the nature of the traffic flow changes from normal cars to these new 'monster trucks' with a higher centre of gravity which means they will hit pedestrians in the chest/vital organs rather than the legs.

There are at least three separate construction projects working on the M1, that piece of infrastructure is a permanent construction project. Makes you wonder whether money would be better spent building R1 in the M1 median instead.

Pacific Motorway M1 upgrade program
https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/projects/programs/pacific-motorway-m1-upgrade-program

@RACQ still trying to have its cake and eat it!

The RACQ comments in the article:

"We need to build more orbital motorways around our cities..."
+  "It's about the right roads in the right places ..."

We don't need orbital motorways because they just create even more congestion from existing population for no economic benefit!!

The answer is actually having the right active and public transport in the right places and converting existing road space for cars into both active and public transport"

A comment you will never hear @RACQ say!!

Quote from: ozbob on September 17, 2023, 08:00:07 AMhttps://x.com/MarkBaileyMP/status/1703162149609345176?

https://x.com/MarkBaileyMP/status/1703165042882203877?s

 

I cannot actually believe it Bailey's response to this is to list road projects!! He's Completely Out of Touch!!!

Consistent with what you have often said Jonno, if you look at just the M1 Pacific Motorway, it is a big long list of expensive projects. Perhaps you could total it?

If an R1 project saw similar patronage levels to that of Perth (optimistically 20 million p.a. versus 5 million p.a. currently on the GC line) about ~ 57,692 trips per day would be diverted off the motorway and onto rail.

I am a little skeptical about the induced traffic claim though, because we know that an average resident makes 3.3 trips per day. This number has been steadily falling over the past few decades.

We have more roads at a higher standard now than in the 1990s. If more traffic were induced overall then we would expect that number to go up within the time series not down or flat.

Trip generation rates per person going up (due to an induction effect) is not what is being observed.

This makes me think the same or slightly less total trips are being made per person, but the distribution in space and time is being changed by having more roads.

Ultimately the source of additional trips is the increase in additional people IMO. 

Source: Travel in South-East Queensland, An analysis of travel data from 1992 to 2009 Page 8

https://www.publications.qld.gov.au/dataset/2e3294e6-5577-4696-948a-c2e7ab36a403/resource/4a42e431-82bc-48b6-a41a-4539283b3e0d/download/householdtravelinseq.pdf

Quote from: Jonno on September 17, 2023, 16:23:09 PM@RACQ still trying to have its cake and eat it!

The RACQ comments in the article:

"We need to build more orbital motorways around our cities..."
+  "It's about the right roads in the right places ..."

We don't need orbital motorways because they just create even more congestion from existing population for no economic benefit!!

The answer is actually having the right active and public transport in the right places and converting existing road space for cars into both active and public transport"

A comment you will never hear @RACQ say!!

Would you expect any less from a company that profits from car proliferation? They lobby, and they lobby hard. The RACQ is constantly in the government's ear privately (source: I know someone who spotted them meeting with Jackie Trad when she was the transport minister). They are also very effective at broadcasting their views. We can agree with some of them though, like rail crossing removals.

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Reality Check: No, More Roads Won't Give us a Congestion-Free Future

18th September 2023

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) is calling for a culture shift within political parties and transport agencies to protect our SEQ lifestyle from rising congestion.

Yesterday (17th September 2023) the Sunday Mail today revealed that despite a long list of road and tunnel projects from over the past decade or so, car congestion is worse than ever and rising (1). We estimate that the Queensland Government and TMR will be unable to out-build the sheer traffic demand to 2046 (23 years time).

The RACQ road lobby agrees with us, we need to pivot from roads to public transport.

More Roads Won't Give us a Congestion-Free Future

Simple ballpark estimates for future road use and demand can be derived from projected population increases released by Deputy Premier Stephen Miles (2). Using simple rules of thumb such as 'each new resident makes 3.3 trips per day on average' and 'about 75% of these trips are likely to happen in cars' it is possible to form a view of the future. We include our results below, which are simple enough to reproduce by anyone with a spreadsheet (5).

For the Brisbane City Council (BCC) local government area, an influx of 457,000 people will generate an additional ~ 1.1 million car trips per day. This is an equivalent traffic load of eleven new Gateway Motorways.

Can Transport Minister Mark Bailey, the Department of Transport and Main Roads, and Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner please confirm for us (a) that our figures are broadly correct and (b) The Queensland Treasury is ready, willing, and able to fund this colossal road task?

We think the lowest cost path out of this is more all-day frequent public transport with improved active transport options.

A Solution - Cultural Change

A cultural change is needed at the very top to change this, starting with policies being created within political parties and with Members of the Queensland Parliament:

1. Accepting that roads are inherently low capacity and are therefore an unsuitable form of sustainable mass transportation.

2. Recognising that rail can be designed to travel faster than cars on a motorway (110 km/hr) vs trains (160 km/hr or higher) and have higher capacity. Thus rail should be the preferred mode of choice for inter-regional travel.

3. Opening all major road projects up to 'modal competition' where both public transport and roads are considered to serve the demand required.

4. Prioritising more services over infrastructure - introducing all-day 15-minute trains like Perth already has, and more BUZ and 'Metro' BRT bus lines which do not need infrastructure mega-projects to provide.

5. Prioritise active transport separated paths.

We look forward to responses from the Minister for Transport Mark Bailey and Brisbane City Council Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner either confirming or denying our figures (and supplying their own if ours is incorrect), and setting out how they will deal with the potentially 1.1 million new daily car trips predicted to will flood the Brisbane City Council LGA.

References:

1. More crashes than ever as South East Qld roads in congestion chokehold
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/more-crashes-than-ever-as-south-east-qld-roads-in-congestion-chokehold/news-story/8dcb75f1dc80c0914771c7f483c77caf

2. South East Queensland is growing

https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/98326 (original)

https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/98331 (updated)

3. Are 1 million new car trips per day set to flood the Brisbane LGA?
https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=13410.msg273375#msg273375

4. A Gympie Road Toll Tunnel will monetise congestion, not bust it
https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=15218.msg274205#msg274205

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Notes on Input Assumptions

Figures are estimates for daily weekday trips.
Total trip pie (all modes) is estimated on each resident generating 3.3 trips per weekday.
PT trips are based on a PT=25% level.
This level is likely to vary across LGAs, and be much lower for LGAs further away from Brisbane.
One can substitute lower or higher values here.

Estimated car trips are simply Total Trip Pie minus PT trips.
Roads like the Gateway motorway carry about 100,000 trips per day

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Quote from: ozbob on September 17, 2023, 07:38:38 AMSent to all outlets:

'Simply building more roads won't help – we don't want to be Los Angeles'

17th September 2023

Good Morning,

Is the penny finally dropping?  The Sunday Mail today "  More crashes than ever as South East Qld roads in congestion chokehold "
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/more-crashes-than-ever-as-south-east-qld-roads-in-congestion-chokehold/news-story/8dcb75f1dc80c0914771c7f483c77caf points out what we have been saying for years.

More of the same leads to more of the same transport failure. Another traffic lane, another road, leads to more induced traffic.  These are not congestion ' busters ' but congestion ' builders '.

The RACQ comments in the article:

" ... RACQ head of public policy Michael Kane said the South East needed a quantum shift due to a historical lack of infrastructure planning.

"We need to build more orbital motorways around our cities, get rid of level crossings and massively improve public transport leading into our major centres," he said. "It's about the right roads in the right places ... simply building more roads won't help – we don't want to be Los Angeles. ... "

Well when the peak motoring organisation calls out the failure you know it is serious.

Further comment in the article:

" ... The state government has been accused of having "no transport plan" ahead of the 2032 Olympic and Paralympic Games, when the population is expected to reach five million. ... "

The State Government and SEQ Councils need to focus more on service delivery. Infrastructure is only part of the story.  We do have a comprehensive rail network in SEQ but it is difficult to use for many because service frequency out of peaks is poor, and it is not supported properly with frequent feeder buses.  Low frequency rail connecting with low frequency bus is not encouraging for citizens to change transport behaviours.

Will we see leadership in transport or more vacuous policies?

Best wishes,
Robert

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Bit of a confused message from RACQ about reducing fares to increase PT uptake.

Reduced fares are a small lever, you can't catch a service if there isn't one coming soon, discounted fares or not.

Best to introduce daily and weekly caps as in other jurisdictions. This will make public transport cheaper overall. The current prices for a casual user is fine as well as for concessional users.

As for the level crossings this has really become a political nightmare. It could've been avoided by at least removing 1 per year over the last 9 years. This would've equated to 9 crossing removals which would've made a huge difference for the travelling public.

Quote from: #Metro on September 19, 2023, 14:08:57 PMBit of a confused message from RACQ about reducing fares to increase PT uptake.

Reduced fares are a small lever, you can't catch a service if there isn't one coming soon, discounted fares or not.

Can we stop making these mutually exclusive.  You can have both.  We don't do the same for roads.

Good PT policy is good PT policy, whether the roads lobby is doing that or not. Money spent in discounts would be better spent on BUZ route expansions.

Road users will probably switch to road user fees in time as electricity replaces petrol and fuel excise revenues evaporate.

Quote from: #Metro on September 19, 2023, 16:23:44 PMGood PT policy is good PT policy, whether the roads lobby is doing that or not. Money spent in discounts would be better spent on BUZ route expansions.

Road users will probably switch to road user fees in time as electricity replaces petrol and fuel excise revenues evaporate.

Assumes there is a direct link between the two Which there isn't!! Only link is a political one!! You can have all the HF routes a government needs if they stop widening roads to bust congestion'

It's worth looking around to see what others have written about fare decreases and even free PT to form a view. This was an interesting one that came up, because rather than debate merits, it went out and did a direct test using randomly assigned free passes to workers and travel trip diaries to record how many trips were made and by what mode.

The impact of fare-free public transport on travel behavior: Evidence from a randomized controlled trial ($)
Regional Science and Urban Economics
Volume 86, January 2021, 103616

Authors: Owen Bull, Juan Carlos Muñoz, Hugo E. Silva
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.regsciurbeco.2020.103616

RBOT Research Thread https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?msg=275003

The study found a 12% increase in trip generation when fares were set to zero. Therefore, a smaller fare discount less than 100% would likely lead to an even smaller trip generation. No mode shift away from cars, and mostly more trips from existing users.

We would not want to rely one one study alone... but this approach could be repeated in SEQ to see if the results can be reproduced here. The findings also are consistent with what is observed with the Melbourne Free Tram zone... heavily discounted fares tends to shift active transport mode share to PT mode share or generates new trips rather than shift motorists from cars.

Feel free to comment on the authors' findings.

Quote from: Jonno on September 17, 2023, 16:23:09 PM@RACQ still trying to have its cake and eat it!

The RACQ comments in the article:

"We need to build more orbital motorways around our cities..."
+  "It's about the right roads in the right places ..."

We don't need orbital motorways because they just create even more congestion from existing population for no economic benefit!!

The answer is actually having the right active and public transport in the right places and converting existing road space for cars into both active and public transport"

A comment you will never hear @RACQ say!!

I realise you have an ideological opposition to roads, but they are a required part of the transport network.

While I disagree with some road projects (e.g. Coomera Connector), others such as the Western Brisbane Bypass have merit, but removing large trucks, and regional journeys which don't have a viable public transport alternative from local roads.

This will allow for speed limit reductions, possibly improving cycle infrastructure along Metroad 5, and improving the amenity for local residents due to a reduction in heavy vehicle traffic.

Where we have gone wrong is expanding motorways in areas where rail is a far better choice, e.g. the M1 corridor.

Agree Achiruel. I support PT, but this does not equate to me being anti-roads.

Toll roads and orbitals don't seem to have much relevance for PT patronage IMO. These roads tend to take high-value trips for people who would not be catching PT anyway (due to specific reasons like tradies/trucks/or just too slow on PT) and would be happy to pay $$ for a shorter trip.

Orbitals I do not see as being a loss of PT patronage, due to the simple fact that there isn't really orbital PT in Brisbane to compete against save for the GCL. GCL patronage is far, far below the 100,000 trips per day being done by the Gateway Motorway.

Finally sometimes roads also improve PT passage. If new roads in the new housing estates were not built, what would the bus run on? the mud? Similar argument with P&R at train stations - they are one less car driving down a motorway into the CBD.

Let's move away from a 'pattern recognition' reaction of cars/roads => bad, towards a more merit-based footing.

Quote from: achiruel on September 23, 2023, 12:35:51 PM

Quote from: Jonno on September 17, 2023, 16:23:09 PM@RACQ still trying to have its cake and eat it!

The RACQ comments in the article:

"We need to build more orbital motorways around our cities..."
+  "It's about the right roads in the right places ..."

We don't need orbital motorways because they just create even more congestion from existing population for no economic benefit!!

The answer is actually having the right active and public transport in the right places and converting existing road space for cars into both active and public transport"

A comment you will never hear @RACQ say!!

I realise you have an ideological opposition to roads, but they are a required part of the transport network.

While I disagree with some road projects (e.g. Coomera Connector), others such as the Western Brisbane Bypass have merit, but removing large trucks, and regional journeys which don't have a viable public transport alternative from local roads.

This will allow for speed limit reductions, possibly improving cycle infrastructure along Metroad 5, and improving the amenity for local residents due to a reduction in heavy vehicle traffic.

Where we have gone wrong is expanding motorways in areas where rail is a far better choice, e.g. the M1 corridor.

But that never actually occurs! Sounds great in a business cases, as we know, but reality is it all becomes a re-congested mess failing everyone.

What creates new traffic? I think it has more to do with each new person that moves here generating +3.3 trips per day. This is the actual source of the new trips.

Roads have low capacity, so a new road runs out of capacity more quickly than say a metro or subway line does. I think it is more accurate to state it that way, rather than "roads create traffic".

If new roads did create new trips, the per-capita trip generation rate in the TMR data should be trending upwards. This is not observed in the TMR data. It is more about new people generating new trips and which mode should be absorbing them. It is not about whether the new trips will appear at all. They are coming anyway.

Where a new road might create new traffic is where it can strip passengers off PT because the new or widened road is faster than the competing PT line. This might be the case for the Centenary Bridge widening, for example. Viewed through a mode neutral lens, however, this is an internal transfer of an existing trip from one mode to another mode, not a new trip.

Couriermail --> 'City of congestion and constraint': Brisbane's lost faith in public transport $

QuoteBrisbane residents are most concerned about population surges and mobility, compared to those in Sydney and Melbourne, and have lost faith in the city's transport future, a survey has found.

Data from the Infrastructure Partnerships Australia survey shows Brisbane residents have major concerns about the city's transport infrastructure capacity, with 72 per cent of respondents saying they have no confidence in the road network's ability to cope with population growth.

Just under 70 per cent said they had no confidence in motorway capacity, while 62 per cent had lost faith in the public transport network. ...

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https://x.com/bne_lordmayor/status/1705740307932033276?s=20

Could we please ask the Lord Mayor in his little twitter thread if he is prepared to fund 11 Gateway Motorway's worth of new road capacity in Brisbane to deal with the ~ 1.1 million daily new car trips in 2046, and post our little heat map table from our prior MR on this?

I reckon a roads programme like that would easily cost ~$30 billion, possibly more (11 x $2.5 billion each project) just for the BCC LGA alone. We haven't even got to the 11 other LGAs in SEQ.

Can LM Adrian Schrinner confirm if our figures are correct, and if not, which ones are then the BCC official figures?

New rules allow wider electric trucks -  The Driven --- Decision to allow wider truck bodies paves way for electrification of big rigs in Australia

Check out the 'toll ban' signs!

QuoteFlashback: Exactly 10 years ago, toll booths vanished from our Queensland roads. The jobs of hundreds of 'toll collectors' disappeared too. One community got rid of them earlier than the rest.

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https://x.com/BrentToderian/status/1708696035974140213

Induced Demand? What Induced Demand?

https://www.yoursay-projects.tmr.qld.gov.au/bruce-highway-upgrade-anzac-avenue-caboolture-bribie-island-road

QuoteThe Department of Transport and Main Roads (TMR) is planning for staged upgrades to the Bruce Highway between North Lakes and Caboolture.

Initial planning is complete and has identified concepts below which will improve safety, flood immunity, efficiency and reliability for all Queenslanders.

Bruce Highway from Anzac Avenue to Uhlmann Road: an additional northbound and southbound lane on this section of highway in place of the existing median.

• Bruce Highway from Uhlmann Road to Caboolture-Bribie Island Road: options are being investigated to either add an additional northbound and southbound lane or add 1-way, 2-lane Collector Distributor (CD) roads on both sides of the existing Bruce Highway. Widening into the median in this section is challenging because of the significant lane changes generated by the proximity of the Uhlmann Road, Buchanan Road and Caboolture-Bribie Island Road interchanges and service centres. CD roads would separate shorter local trips from highway traffic, reducing weaving associated with traffic entering and exiting the highway, allowing the highway to operate more efficiently.

More detailed planning is underway as business cases are developed for these upgrades to improve traffic flow and safety while boosting capacity to meet growing demand.

As a tax-payer               

Car lobby warns Brisbane faces LA-style congestion without intervention

QuoteSouth-east Queensland faces traffic congestion more akin to Los Angeles unless authorities make dramatic planning changes, the RACQ has warned.

QuoteWhat the RACQ believes is needed to support population growth in south-east Queensland
- Improve Brisbane's Wynnum Road corridor and Old Cleveland Road corridor;
- Extend the Brisbane Metro bus routes;
- Introduce smaller, more frequent Metro Glider bus services within 10 years;
- Improve bus and train links with the South East Freeway and Pacific Highway;
- Upgrade connections around rapidly-growing Chermside centre;
- More dedicated bikeways to take cyclists and e-scooter riders off busy roads.

Source: RACQ submission to draft 2023 South-East Queensland Regional Plan.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/car-lobby-warns-brisbane-faces-la-style-congestion-without-intervention-20231011-p5ebgs.html

Not really sure what they mean by "Improve bus and train links with the South East Freeway and Pacific Highway"?

They also seem to think that there is a connection between bus vehicle size and frequency. Labour costs dominate the frequency equation.

Brisbane Times ---> https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/car-lobby-warns-brisbane-faces-la-style-congestion-without-intervention-20231011-p5ebgs.html

Even the car lobby groups want additional and improved segregated active transport links, as well as improved public transport infrastructure. Yes, extend the Brisbane Metro from UQ to Indooroopilly Shopping Centre as well as up to Chermside. Fund the Gold Glider to Skygate. Let's get more underpasses and overpasses across busy roads for cyclists and pedestrians. Build a segregated cycling link down Wickham Street from Spring Hill to Newstead.

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Car lobby warns Brisbane faces LA-style congestion without intervention

12th October 2023

RAIL Back On Track (RBOT) welcomes calls by the road lobby group RACQ to improve public and active transport (1). We agree with the RACQ that we are on the road to an LA-style congestion future.

We believe 457,000 people moving into the Brisbane City Council Local Government area will generate ~ 1.1 million new daily car trips by 2046. This is a traffic increase equivalent to eleven Gateway Motorways (2).

Brisbane City Council Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner and Queensland Government Transport Minister Mark Bailey have to date still not responded to our inquiries to confirm or deny whether our traffic forecasts are broadly correct, or provide their own figures if ours are not.

There is a clear gain for political candidates and parties offering additional Brisbane Metro bus lines and high-frequency BUZ bus routes at the 2024 State and Local Government elections. Four new Brisbane Metro bus lines are needed to Chermside, Carindale, Indooroopilly, and Browns Plains. Brisbane City Council's BUZ high-frequency bus program should also be restarted.

Train service frequency on the Queensland Government's Queensland Rail network is also very behind. Perth provides frequent train service to more train stations on a Sunday than the Queensland Government provides to Greater Brisbane on a weekday, and we have the data to prove it (3).

Simple bus and train service upgrades are less costly and can be delivered within one election cycle - much sooner than large infrastructure projects.

RAIL Back On Track calls on all political parties and candidates seeking election in the 2024 Queensland State Elections or Brisbane City Council Local Government Elections to think about suitable policy proposals for their target ward or seat to please get in touch with us.

Robert Dow
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References:

1. Car lobby warns Brisbane faces LA-style congestion without intervention https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/car-lobby-warns-brisbane-faces-la-style-congestion-without-intervention-20231011-p5ebgs.html

2. Reality Check: No, More Roads Won't Give us a Congestion-Free Future https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=15327.0

3. TransPerth versus TransLink (SEQ): RAIL Back On Track reveals extent of poor train service in Greater Brisbane https://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=14732.0

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Any response from the LM  handling  ~ 1.1 million new daily car trips by 2046?