SEQ Bus Network Review

[ozbob]

http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1346370543

SEQ Bus Network Review

Last updated: 5.08pm Monday 3 September 2012

Help us build a better network

In July this year, the Minister for Transport and Main Roads announced a review of TransLink's South East Queensland bus network to improve service frequency, reliability and affordability.
Get involved

You will have the opportunity to get involved in various phases of the Review over the coming months. Your first opportunity to participate will be to complete a Service Review Form between Monday 10 September and midnight, Sunday 23 September 2012. The link will be available from this page from Monday 10 September.

We're seeking your input about each of the individual bus routes you currently use. This information will then be provided to TransLink planners and our delivery partners as they review each of these routes.


About the South East Queensland Network Review

TransLink is now working with delivery partners and passengers to review all urban routes in the South East Queensland bus network.

The key objectives of the Network Review are:

    Eliminating service duplication
    Managing the infrastructure capacity (e.g. Cultural Centre busway station congestion)
    Getting more people on public transport by simplifying the network
    Getting better connectivity between services and modes
    Redirecting resources to routes where there is overcrowding
    Offering Demand Responsive Transport options where appropriate (such as taxis, flexibus services, para transit options etc).

We'll keep you updated via this website and TransLink staff out on the network.

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[ozbob]

Media release 4th September 2012

SEQ: Bus network review underway

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport passengers has welcomed the notice posted on the TransLink web site announcing the commencement of the SEQ Bus Network Review (1).

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"The bus network in south-east Queensland is long overdue for an overhaul."

"RAIL Back On Track has argued that the fastest, cheapest way to boost public transport is to introduce frequent and rapid services along main arterial roads, and increase rail and ferry services in existing corridors. This would require little or no new infrastructure, be rapid and quick to implement. And most of all, inexpensive when compared to larger 'big ticket' infrastructure items such as new busways or railway lines (2).

"Brisbane Transport for example currently operates around 220 bus routes - we think that's a lot of bus routes, and believe that fewer, simpler, more legible and more frequent services could be achieved simply through consolidation. Most of the network is over a decade old and more, and was created in a time when integrated fares, integrated ticketing and integrated planning were not around and operators competed with one another. Times have changed and the network must change also."

"A core frequent network is only part of the solution however.  Proper local coverage and feeder bus routes are also needed. Improved frequency and span of hours can be achieved by savings made from eliminating service duplication and in so doing improving connectivity not only to high frequency bus but rail as well."

"TransLink has indicated that public feedback will be sought from the 10th September via a Service Review Form (1).  It is important that all citizens give their viewpoints, by doing that a better integrated demand responsive network can be achieved."

References:

1. SEQ Bus Network Review http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1346370543

2. Do-it-yourself Brisbane Bus Network Review! http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=8959.0

Contact:

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

[HappyTrainGuy]

Send the 77 via Airport link 

[Gazza]

 If all the UQ people could point out via the feeback the stupidity of the extra stops the 402 makes compared to the 412 that would be excellent!

Also, htg, what's that northside route with like 6 variations?

[SurfRail]

If all the UQ people could point out via the feeback the stupidity of the extra stops the 402 makes compared to the 412 that would be excellent!

Also, htg, what's that northside route with like 6 variations?

338, and there are more than 6 - HTG would have them down pat...

[Jonno]

Make stops min 400 apart and located next to shops and other comercial activities where possible

[Gazza]

Send the 77 via Airport link 

That would actually be amazing.

[BrizCommuter]

What will really happen is TransLink will receive lots of comments from people wanting a express bus service from their bus stop (probably in the middle of urban sprawl) directly to their place of work. "Iwantanexpressbusfrommystopitis".

[somebody]

What will really happen is TransLink will receive lots of comments from people wanting a express bus service from their bus stop (probably in the middle of urban sprawl) directly to their place of work. "Iwantanexpressbusfrommystopitis".

If they get a large number of comments to put the PM P137 into QSBS & they do it, the whole exercise would be worthwhile.

[colinw]

What will really happen is TransLink will receive lots of comments from people wanting a express bus service from their bus stop (probably in the middle of urban sprawl) directly to their place of work. "Iwantanexpressbusfrommystopitis".

That already exists. It is parked in your garage.

[#Metro]

Why can't TL just say "go get a taxi if that's what you want?"

[SurfRail]

They seriously need a Facebook page so they can give measured and sensible responses like the QR guys do.

[kazzac]

What will really happen is TransLink will receive lots of comments from people wanting a express bus service from their bus stop (probably in the middle of urban sprawl) directly to their place of work. "Iwantanexpressbusfrommystopitis".

That already exists. It is parked in your garage.                                                          

I know,The only way I can now travel to/from my work in half the time instead of on 2 buses/trains,I DON'T miss travelling by PT at all!! However I do agree that the bus network needs a review,Bulimba /Balmoral BUZ for a start,most of my neighbours here dont drive  or have a car and travel everywhere by bus.

[Arnz]

They seriously need a Facebook page so they can give measured and sensible responses like the QR guys do.

And watch the page get 1000000+ more complaints than what the QR page got since they started.  Even if the page is intended for something else like network reviews.

Facebook would meltdown as soon as the word of a TL page gets out.

[HappyTrainGuy]

If all the UQ people could point out via the feeback the stupidity of the extra stops the 402 makes compared to the 412 that would be excellent!

Also, htg, what's that northside route with like 6 variations?

338, and there are more than 6 - HTG would have them down pat...

Yep, the 338 (Chermside to Strathpine via Albany Creek/Eatons Hill/Brendale) has the arvo mess when it doesn't go to the intented destinations (has 3 terminuses ) because of the time, if its a public school term, if its a private school term along with the 357/359 taking over its duties. I just love reading that timetable http://translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/network-information/timetables/120220-338.pdf Oh they also left out the via Bald Hills route map http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/network-information/service-information/outbound/9792/2176085

The 327 (Toombul to Strathpine via Sandgate) has the problem with not connecting Bracken Ridge/Bald Hills to Strathpine and vice versa during peak hour direction ie because of the multiple terminuses it pretty much starts at the on/off ramps for the Arterial link to the Bruce Highway. Morning there is no Strathpine-Bracken Ridge link and in the arvo there is no Bracken Ridge-Strathpine link. The 326/327 routes are just really shite for anyone trying to get from Strathpine-Sandgate-Strathpine. Needs to be a one trip link. http://translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/network-information/timetables/120723-326,327.pdf

306 also has 3 terminues at Nudgee Beach, Nudgee and Toombul Interchange. I don't know the loadings about it so I can't really comment but the Toombul terminus sounds like a load of crap considering how many routes use it. Either run it to Nudgee full time or cut it http://translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/network-information/timetables/100510-306,322.pdf

P339 was cut and replaced with 335 routes (about time really) which previously bypassed the Chermside interchange in the peak direction meaning locals had no access to/from the interchange during peak hour. Already the peak hour outbound 335s I've observed has good loadings into (combined with the 325 frequency) and get topped off out of the Chermside interchange. I've been told the inbound 335's have more people dressed in uniforms for major stores at Chermside and since the route now starts earlier/finishes later patronage is still continued into the night... fancy that haha. The Gympie Road stops are still useless as usual with only a few people ever using them. I'd say it would be far better to send them down Ellison Road to Murphy Road back out onto Gympie Road. Yes it duplicates the 330 but with 1 outbound stop and 0 inbound stops copied its not like its going to be stealing patronage from them. If anything the running down Ellison road would increase patronage for the 335 as people don't have to walk 300m across sporting fields/bushes just to get to the inbound stop on Gympie Road. Add it with the earlier and later running hours and its a win in my books.

340/341 duplicates each other. 340 departs from the left of the railway station while the 341 departs from the right hand side of the railway station queue epic facepalm. I get the 341 serves the valley and does a tiny loop of Fitzgibbon on the way out but why not run the 340 to Boondall Station via Carselgrove Ave (Fitzgibbon)/Rogan Road and have a proper frequent city loop established between QSBS/southern CBD/Valley/cityglyder/RBWHBS http://translink.com.au/resources/travel-information/network-information/timetables/120618-340,P341,P344.pdf

330/331 can be improved by having both routes start at the same location rather than a couple hundred metres down the road. Might be time to fast track some of the Fitzgibbon development (the road network) so access Bracken Ridge to Carseldine is possible and fast.

I don't know too much about all the routes and how they run through the city eg the rockets/cityxpress/general routes etc but it might be time to consider cutting some of them from the city streets and running a dedicated and proper city loop routes via the inner city busway/key stopping areas.

Why can't TL just say "go get a taxi if that's what you want?"

A bus from Strathpine bus interchange to Warner at 8.15pm on a Thursday night...... your're dreaming mate 

That's what Translink has done to the Northside. Basically everything inbetween Chermside-Petrie haha. They've made small improvments here and there but still they like to take their time about it.

[longboi]

The review won't be a free-wheeling "design your own network" thing. The questions will be targeted to specific routes in order to get some meaningful data (i.e. Where are you travelling to? times? routes? etc.).

[SurfRail]

The review won't be a free-wheeling "design your own network" thing. The questions will be targeted to specific routes in order to get some meaningful data (i.e. Where are you travelling to? times? routes? etc.).

Asking the captive or current market things like that is only going to be of limited use. 

How do they expect to grow patronage unless they are designing for people who may want to use services but are put off by complexity/non-availability etc, rather than just accommodating people who already have a daily regime and just want something that will favor them?

They need to promulgate reviews like this a lot more widely, including with consultation sessions all around the joint.

[#Metro]

The review won't be a free-wheeling "design your own network" thing. The questions will be targeted to specific routes in order to get some meaningful data (i.e. Where are you travelling to? times? routes? etc.).

That's just not good enough. We've already had the orange rubbish bin survey, data galore, Go Cards which track everything  so why is there a need to collect even more data on who uses what route because those patterns should already be shown in the data they have already.

No, the entire network needs to be wiped off the board, COMPLETELY start from scratch. Wipe it out!
And there needs to be proper public consultation - focus groups in rooms etc and a free text box / image upload

Previous surveys were very restrictive with regards to the type and format of inputs.

[longboi]

The review won't be a free-wheeling "design your own network" thing. The questions will be targeted to specific routes in order to get some meaningful data (i.e. Where are you travelling to? times? routes? etc.).

That's just not good enough. We've already had the orange rubbish bin survey, data galore, Go Cards which track everything  so why is there a need to collect even more data on who uses what route because those patterns should already be shown in the data they have already.

No, the entire network needs to be wiped off the board, COMPLETELY start from scratch. Wipe it out!
And there needs to be proper public consultation - focus groups in rooms etc and a free text box / image upload

Previous surveys were very restrictive with regards to the type and format of inputs.

That's just an example, there will be more questions than that (I don't profess to know every single thing that will be asked) and it is route specific which would imply it is designed with questions about local issues (again, not 100% but this is what has been implied).
Also, this is the FIRST stage in a number of stages of the review, more of which will involve further passenger participation, becoming more detailed as the basics are gathered first.

Just going and saying "I want a bus route here, here and here" is completely useless without the basic facts (where people are coming from and going/ideally would like to go, what routes they use, at what times etc). and counter-intuitive to this review which is about maximising the efficiency of the bus network, removing the duplication (where it is unnecessary) and customising PT to its users at much as possible.

Also, go card data is not the be all and end all. It helps but not necessarily reflective of all passenger movements. For example, people (unfortunately) still buy paper tickets and there is no way to see when/where/if those people are making transfers. People also don't buy tickets at all or use their go card incorrectly.

Man, I don't get why you guys get so irrationally angry and feel some need to constantly counter anything I say with negativity. It's so bizarre and I've only ever encountered it here on such a consistent basis. Different opinions are fine but why all the vitriol behind it?  :conf

[SurfRail]

^ I'd like to think my comment above does not fall into that category.  Consultation for something this big needs to involve more than just people who already use the system so some level of planning can take place around actively growing patronage beyond the people who have already deciphered the network.

I think TT's comment was a bit overboard, but we need to recognise that "lines on a map" is something that is used commonly for these exercises.

[somebody]

we need to recognise that "lines on a map" is something that is used commonly for these exercises.

Indeed.  I think a recently departed member had an unreasonable problem with this.

[#Metro]

That's just an example, there will be more questions than that (I don't profess to know every single thing that will be asked) and it is route specific which would imply it is designed with questions about local issues (again, not 100% but this is what has been implied).
Also, this is the FIRST stage in a number of stages of the review, more of which will involve further passenger participation, becoming more detailed as the basics are gathered first.

Why does TransLink need data on the bus routes boarding and destinations etc when (a) it has already conducted the survey that does this (orange bin survey) and it already has the Go Card data that says when, where and which routes people use?

Just going and saying "I want a bus route here, here and here" is completely useless without the basic facts (where people are coming from and going/ideally would like to go, what routes they use, at what times etc). and counter-intuitive to this review which is about maximising the efficiency of the bus network, removing the duplication (where it is unnecessary) and customising PT to its users at much as possible.

I agree with you, but as I said, they already have the data on this. So what would a survey reveal that TransLink didn't already know?

Also, go card data is not the be all and end all. It helps but not necessarily reflective of all passenger movements. For example, people (unfortunately) still buy paper tickets and there is no way to see when/where/if those people are making transfers. People also don't buy tickets at all or use their go card incorrectly.

We don't need to do a census if we have a large sample population. This is the whole basis of statistics. 80% of trips are already done on Go Card, now unless there were serious systematic biases in the people who do not use go card (i.e. most paper ticket holders catch particular routes at particular times of the day), the fact that a minority of people don't use Go Card isn't particularly relevant IMHO.

Man, I don't get why you guys get so irrationally angry and feel some need to constantly counter anything I say with negativity. It's so bizarre and I've only ever encountered it here on such a consistent basis. Different opinions are fine but why all the vitriol behind it? 

I think it is OK to ask questions. I haven't sworn at anyone or gone off topic. I take your point that this is the first in a series, but I feel the need to state that many of TLs 'reviews' haven't really been as public involving as jurisdictions overseas, for example.

[#Metro]

^^^ See if TransLink's survey had an image upload or free text box capability, people could upload this directly. It would be much easier. The technology is there, should be used IMHO.

[Arnz]

And while we're at it, TL has just funded some new buses for the Sunshine Coast region (via Bustech's site), whilst some routes may be under question for restructuring or facing the axe (air parcel duplication), it's the first upcoming deliveries since the last batch of new buses was delivered in December 2010.

Also to add, internal sources at this stage say they'd be all headed to the main depot at Marcoola, whilst palming off a few older buses to Caloundra depot to make space for the new deliveries.

[ozbob]

Media release 9th September 2012

SEQ: Public Transport Non-users must feature in bus review

RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport passengers has welcomed the the commencement of the SEQ Bus Network Review (1).

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"RAIL Back On Track members want to see the basic transport backbone done right. From this basic 'Core Frequent Network' backbone, everything else can be built."

The Core Frequent Network is the minimum, basic network required to connect the suburbs to the Brisbane CBD and major suburban centres to each other. It consists of:

- A high frequency 'Bus Grid' running along main arterial roads - Improved CityCat services

- 'Perth Standard' Train Upgrade Zones where trains depart every 15 minutes or better, all day and all week

- A Core Frequent Network Map which displays all-day, high frequency services, regardless of what vehicle is used to transport the passenger

- Abolition of paper ticketing entirely

- Integrated bus priority network (bus priority lanes on arterial and sub-arterial roads).

"Sydney is currently embarking on a transport master-plan which will likely see the bus system entirely re-organised (2,3). We would like to see the bus network redesigned from the beginning here in Brisbane too, rather than just tweaking existing routes."

"The current radial one-seat bus service network, which attempts to provide single-service bus transport from many origins to many destinations, has little capacity for growth and is not adequate to the task of meeting complex 21st century travel patterns. In an improved network the need for interchange may be increased, but the inconvenience of interchange is reduced due to higher service frequencies."

"In Brisbane, this means that major improvements need to be made to break up and reform the Great Circle Line, as well as introduce 'around town' circumferential routes on selected arterial roads. The introduction of the high frequency Stafford Road cross-town service - bus route 369, is a good example of what we want to see. Similar 'no-holds barred' reviews have taken place overseas as well, such as in Portland, Oregon, USA (4).

"We hope that the web based feedback includes a free-form text box so that participants can give a fuller, more detailed response to the review. An image/document submissions upload facility could also be considered. Furthermore, we call on TransLink to survey a group of people who do not use public transport, even though it is provided in their area as a 'control' or 'non-transit user reference' group. This will allow TransLink to identify new market share and what it needs to do in order to get more people using the system. This is essential - the more people who use the system all day, the more the farebox and the less government subsidy is required."

"The RAIL Back On Track Core Frequent Network model (5) can be downloaded here (http://backontrack.org/docs/tt/BrisbaneCoreFrequentNetwork.kml) and allows the public to draw/redraw services by loading it into Google Maps (http://maps.google.com)."

"We look forward to the review!"

Contact:

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

References:

1. SEQ Bus Network Review http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1346370543

2. Plan to turn buses around before they hit the city
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/plan-to-turn-buses-around-before-they-hit-city-20120905-25e6p.html#
ixzz25a9y2Ufm

3. Sydney - Grid networks for gridless cities
http://www.humantransit.org/2010/03/sydney-grid-networks-for-gridless-cities.html

4. Portland: the grid is 30 years old ... thank a planner!
http://www.humantransit.org/2012/08/portland-the-grid-is-30-thank-a-planner.html

5.SEQ: Do-it-yourself Brisbane Bus Network Review!
http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=8959.0

[#Metro]

South East Inner Orbital?

This isn't in the model, but was drawn using it...
It is extremely difficult to get a bus through some of these roads due to traffic calming, lack of bridges over rail lines, creeks etcetera. Here is an idea for an inner orbital to allow cross-suburban movement. Ideally I would have liked it to go from shopping centre to shopping centre at either end, but this wasn't really possible given the road layout.

Red arrows indicate connection opportunities. Indicative service would be 15 minutes, 7 am - 7pm, 7 days... just like the 369

Indooroopilly,
Yeerongpilly
SE Busway at Holland Park West (essential connection, see here http://goo.gl/maps/MjBIP)
Logan Road
Cavendish Road
Old Cleveland Road
Morningside Train Station
Thynne Road (is there a need for a 235 Thynne Road bus service any more when people can connect with train?)
Bulimba

[somebody]

I'm inclined to support this, even though I think it would probably be lightly patronised.  Helps with removal of the 105 & 113.  Don't like the 15 minute frequency though - there's bigger fish to fry.

Not sure about the bit north of Morningside.

[ozbob]

http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1346370543

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You will have the opportunity to get involved in various phases of the Review over the coming months. Your first opportunity to participate will be to complete a Service Review Form between Monday 10 September and midnight, Sunday 23 September 2012. The link will be available from this page from Monday 10 September.

We're seeking your input about each of the individual bus routes you currently use. This information will then be provided to TransLink planners and our delivery partners as they review each of these routes ...

[#Metro]

I'm inclined to support this, even though I think it would probably be lightly patronised.  Helps with removal of the 105 & 113.  Don't like the 15 minute frequency though - there's bigger fish to fry.

Not sure about the bit north of Morningside.

Yes, if the 196 BUZ is extended into Yeronga, we can abolish the hourly 105 entirely! CUT!!
15 minute frequency is the BARE MINIMUM for interchange purposes. Any worse frequency than that and it will be rather useless.

The section north of Morningside station replaces the 235 - we can get rid of the 235! The bus would have to be carefully timed with trains or the train frequency boosted though because 30 minute trains + 15 minute buses don't really match too well (more reason to fix up train frequency).

The patronage of the line will get better as intersecting train and arterial roads get TUZ and BUZ services respectively.

[ozbob]

Bus review service review form now available --> http://jp.translink.com.au/travel-information/service-updates/details/1346370543

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[ozbob]

Completed a form, little clunky.  Has a free comment box, where I made comment about the need for a modified 523 bus in roam zone C and extended hours of operation and improved frequency for the 524.

[ozbob]

Sent to all outlets:

10th September 2012

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[ozbob]

612 ABC Brisbane radio Breakfast with Spencer Howson

Bus feedback sought by Translink

10 September 2012 , 7:49 AM by Spencer Howson

Translink wants to know what's wrong with your bus routes. There's an online form they want you to visit over the next couple of weeks.

Neil Scales is the Deputy Director-General of Translink:

Click --> here!

[somebody]

Is Neil Scales DDG already?  AFAIK the TTA act is still in force and the current Administrative Order has TTA administering the TTA act.

[beauyboy]

That feedback survey form is pathetic.
The fact is most people will put down very little that is wrong with there own route because that like it the way it is. I wanted to comment on other routes I use that I see problems with not just my own commuter route.
It also left out very simple questions like

• does the bus stop to often?
• would you transfer if your bus came more often?

Typical government servay that is not really asking for imformation, just to apease us

Donald

[Jonno]

That feedback survey form is pathetic.
The fact is most people will put down very little that is wrong with there own route because that like it the way it is. I wanted to comment on other routes I use that I see problems with not just my own commuter route.
It also left out very simple questions like

• does the bus stop to often?
• would you transfer if your bus came more often?

Typical government servay that is not really asking for imformation, just to apease us

Donald

I was just about to write the exact same thing.  Epic Failure Translink!!!!

[#Metro]

Translink wants to know what's wrong with your bus routes.

Everything! Wipe the entire network off the map!

I don't want to just use "my" bus route. I want to use the whole network.
This survey is like asking people about "their main road, the one they use most often".

I use heaps of different bus routes all the time - so I only put down my commuter journey.

Big plus for the free text box.

[beauyboy]

But I did notice you can go back and do the survey again

Hee Hee

[ozbob]

If you use different bus routes, nothing stopping you commenting on each one.

[Golliwog]

Is Neil Scales DDG already?  AFAIK the TTA act is still in force and the current Administrative Order has TTA administering the TTA act.

Theres a Translink media release from a week or two ago referring to him as a DDG so yeah he is.