21 Feb 2012: SEQ: Core Frequent Network - Cut waste to fund BUZ 400 ...

[ozbob]

Media release 21 February 2012

SEQ: Core Frequent Network - Cut waste to fund BUZ 400 for Centenary Suburbs!



RAIL Back On Track (http://backontrack.org) a web based community support group for rail and public transport and an advocate for public transport passengers has called for a review of P88 and 460 so that a BUZ 400 can be funded.

Robert Dow, Spokesman for RAIL Back On Track said:

"RAIL Back On Track has long argued that the fastest, cheapest way to improve the public transport system in Brisbane is a targeted, selective boost of services to create a Core Frequent Network covering Brisbane with a network of selective trunk, high-capacity, high-frequency, traffic-prioritised workhorse rail, ferry and bus routes (1)."

"The Centenary Suburbs are a large black spot in the BUZ network. Services are slow and infrequent are are not competitive with car travel on the Centenary Motorway. We believe efficiencies can be used to support the introduction of a BUZ 400 to the Centenary Suburbs. Firstly, route 460 bus which duplicates the Richlands line can be terminated at Indooroopilly. What is so special about this route that it justifies the waste of public money duplicating other frequent bus services and a multi-million dollar brand new rail line?"

"The western part of P88 could be amalgamated into a new BUZ 400. The Eastern part of the P88 bus could be folded into route 160 bus which would extended to Eight Mile Plains and be routed over the Captain Cook Bridge if a service bypassing Cultural Centre was desired. Removing the 160 bus from Cultural Centre would also mean less congestion there too. Existing 450 bus and similar services would also be re-organised and reviewed."

"Introducing a BUZ 400 would be much faster and easier by releasing cash locked up in inefficiencies and legacy routes. A bus or transit lane is required inbound on the Centenary Highway is needed so that buses are not crawling in the traffic in the AM peak."

"High quality prioritised public transport allows people to escape traffic congestion, and is the best way to absorb growth in travel demand in the future."

"The cancellation of plans for 'Maroon CityGliders' and the diversion of those funds to areas where ratepayers currently endure terrible service frequency such as the Centenary Suburbs would also speed up the introduction of a BUZ 400."

"Hesitancy to cut 'legacy routes' and duplication locks up funding for decent services in other areas of the city has contributed to a situation where Brisbane now runs significantly more bus routes than Toronto, Canada, a city far larger than Brisbane where 98% of services connect to a TTC subway station. With fares rising at 15% each year, there is huge public expectation that money will be used to deliver frequency where it is needed most, and that waste will be cut (2, 3)."

"As RAIL Back On Track has always said, services must be frequent, bottom line!"

References:

1.  http://brisurbane.wordpress.com/2011/04/24/canada-transit-special-brisbane-runs-more-bus-routes-than-toronto/Streetcars have been included in the count for Toronto.

2.  Building a Core Frequent Network  http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=5173.0

3.  Core Frequent Network Discussion Paper -  less is more http://backontrack.org/docs/bus/cfn_v1.pdf

Contact:

Robert Dow
Administration
admin@backontrack.org
RAIL Back On Track http://backontrack.org

[John Fraser]

Perhaps a ride on the buz service travelling through the Clem7 would have "Rail Back on Track" calling for it to be scrapped and the resources directed to the Centenary suburbs.

What's the likelihood of "Rail Back on Track" critizing the LNP for their policy on the Cross River Rail tunnel ........ apart from not likely & sometime in 2018.

[Arnz]

Still trolling I see, John?  I suggest you do your research, plenty of members and mods has criticized the LNP on the LNP's undecided stance on the CRR.

[ozbob]

Perhaps a ride on the buz service travelling through the Clem7 would have "Rail Back on Track" calling for it to be scrapped and the resources directed to the Centenary suburbs.

What's the likelihood of "Rail Back on Track" critizing the LNP for their policy on the Cross River Rail tunnel ........ apart from not likely & sometime in 2018.

Why don't you actually read our position on Cross River Rail rather than make an unresearched comment John?

For a start -->   http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=7523.0

[Jonas Jade]

Perhaps a ride on the buz service travelling through the Clem7 would have "Rail Back on Track" calling for it to be scrapped and the resources directed to the Centenary suburbs.

The 77 has been fairly well used when I've travelled on it and I think it's a worthwhile route.

A nitpick also, it's not a BUZ.

[#Metro]

Perhaps a ride on the buz service travelling through the Clem7 would have "Rail Back on Track" calling for it to be scrapped and the resources directed to the Centenary suburbs.

What's the likelihood of "Rail Back on Track" critizing the LNP for their policy on the Cross River Rail tunnel ........ apart from not likely & sometime in 2018.

P88 was criticised here - an ALP introduced bus service.
Maroon CityGliders were criticised here too - a LNP initiative.

We care about mobility. If you divide the world into LNP/ALP that's an issue with YOUR lens, not with our material.

And BTW, the LNP doesn't have an official policy on CRR. If you can find their official policy on their official website with respect to CRR, please link to it and post it here.

[John Fraser]

The Clem7 bus stops on the northside at the same stops as the buz  & that means that people standing at a stop waiting for a bus that may not turn up watches the Clem7 bus go past (try a 45 minute trip from the bowling alley at Kedron to Westfield at Chermside not in peak time while 2 Clem7 buses go past with 3 people on , including the bus driver)..... therefore to all intents and purposes it is a buz service.

Send it to Centenary suburbs & stop subsidizing the Clem7.

5 Media releases from 18/2/2012 and plenty of mention of LNP but nothing about what they will not do.

[John Fraser]

I find "Arnz" and his post extremely insulting.

[Mr X]

The Clem7 bus stops on the northside at the same stops as the buz  & that means that people standing at a stop waiting for a bus that may not turn up watches the Clem7 bus go past (try a 45 minute trip from the bowling alley at Kedron to Westfield at Chermside not in peak time while 2 Clem7 buses go past with 3 people on , including the bus driver)..... therefore to all intents and purposes it is a buz service.

Err no

A BUZ is:

All BUZ services run at least every fifteen minutes from around 6:00am to 11:00pm seven days a week and at least every ten minutes during peak hours from Monday to Friday.[1][2]

Source

77 = not a BUZ
Try again.

Try your maths. Within a 45min period, a route with a bus operating every 30mins should logically go past twice. By your definition, half the routes in Brisbane should be called "BUZ" including the 198 

[Arnz]

The Clem7 bus stops on the northside at the same stops as the buz  & that means that people standing at a stop waiting for a bus that may not turn up watches the Clem7 bus go past (try a 45 minute trip from the bowling alley at Kedron to Westfield at Chermside not in peak time while 2 Clem7 buses go past with 3 people on , including the bus driver)..... therefore to all intents and purposes it is a buz service.

Err no

A BUZ is:

All BUZ services run at least every fifteen minutes from around 6:00am to 11:00pm seven days a week and at least every ten minutes during peak hours from Monday to Friday.[1][2]

Source

77 = not a BUZ
Try again.

Try your maths. Within a 45min period, a route with a bus operating every 30mins should logically go past twice. By your definition, half the routes in Brisbane should be called "BUZ" including the 198 

+2 

[Arnz]

I find "Arnz" and his post extremely insulting.

As tramtrain had already pointed we are concerned with mobility, and he has listed examples where we criticized both parties on ideas that do not work.

If you actually do your research and not criticize/troll from a one party point of view I might have more respect for your opinions.  If you want to bring party politics in it, I suggest you stick to the newspaper blogs.

[somebody]

Perhaps a ride on the buz service travelling through the Clem7 would have "Rail Back on Track" calling for it to be scrapped and the resources directed to the Centenary suburbs.

What's the likelihood of "Rail Back on Track" critizing the LNP for their policy on the Cross River Rail tunnel ........ apart from not likely & sometime in 2018.

What's your problem?

We have called for both sides of politics to commit to CRR, and no doubt will again.