196 into UQ?

[somebody]

You should also allow a right hand turn into the busway at Annerley Rd/Gladstone Rd.  Don't know why this hasn't been done already.

Doing this would ease pressure on the 109 and 192 services.  And perhaps help give a few pax to the 105/107/108 services.

Seems pretty sensible to me.

[ozbob]

Is there any room left at UQ Lakes bus station?

[Golliwog]

Is there any room left at UQ Lakes bus station?

If you swapped it for the 192, maybe. The 209 stop is possibly also shareable, but I would say the 109 stop and the 139/169 stop are well and truely full in peak. The problem with the 192 stop is that it's not indented and you can struggle to not have the arse of the bus hanging out if the waiting buses have parked too far forward.

[somebody]

If you put up a stop in the current layover area and squeeze layover times 

But really, if the 196 went here, surely you would can the 192 beyond Dornoch Tce.

I guess getting the 192 stop angled is probably something in the proposed upgrade.

[#Metro]

This is a great idea Simon.

Let's DO IT!!!

[dwb]

If you put up a stop in the current layover area and squeeze layover times 

But really, if the 196 went here, surely you would can the 192 beyond Dornoch Tce.

I guess getting the 192 stop angled is probably something in the proposed upgrade.

Hmmm I don't like to tinker too much with routes, 192 has only been recently extended, I think changing routes and numbers too much just confuses people.

Also, if the 196 was to go to UQ, then I think it would have to wait for the upgrade to UQ lakes to occur. Maybe now that CN has left BCC it will go ahead?

[#Metro]

Altering 196 will allow Yeronga/Fairfield buses to be fixed up and a major speed increase to be realised by all day operation of a much improved 105 service.

So I think it should be done. Service changes can be explained in the usual way.

[somebody]

So I think it should be done. Service changes can be explained in the usual way.

Or maybe far better?

[SurfRail]

Yes, very sensible idea.

The 105 - even in its current form - would probably be enough to absorb the loss of the 196 south of Dutton Park, and nobody is suggesting its atrocious service levels be kept as is.

The 105 isn't actually that bad a design.  Needs some ironing out and simplification in Yeronga/Fairfield (eg from the city - Fairfield/Home, Ashby, William, Corso, Orlando, Orcades, Kadumba, Park Rd).  Get it frequent enough and the aim would be to get people to train to Yeerongpilly and to catch the 105 whichever direction suits best.  I don't see the need for a separate route to the city along Fairfield Rd when people could catch the bus to Graceville or Yeerongpilly and train from there.

(I would prefer a bus service that followed a route past the TAFE than connecting to and terminating at Yeronga station for the sake of it, as the street layout isn't brilliant.)

[dwb]

I don't see the need for a separate route to the city along Fairfield Rd when people could catch the bus to Graceville or Yeerongpilly and train from there.

You can't force a transfer when the train has 30min interval at Yeronga!

[Golliwog]

I don't see the need for a separate route to the city along Fairfield Rd when people could catch the bus to Graceville or Yeerongpilly and train from there.

You can't force a transfer when the train has 30min interval at Yeronga!

Yes, but thats a timetable limitation not a infrastructure one. Much easier to fix.

[somebody]

I don't see the need for a separate route to the city along Fairfield Rd when people could catch the bus to Graceville or Yeerongpilly and train from there.

You can't force a transfer when the train has 30min interval at Yeronga!

Yes, but thats a timetable limitation not a infrastructure one. Much easier to fix.

Just as importantly, Annerley Rd also requires a service.

[SurfRail]

Just as importantly, Annerley Rd also requires a service.

A proper 105 should suffice.  Get the other all stopping routes consolidated, or onto the busway - no need for the 202 or 116 to be doing inner city pickups.

[somebody]

Just as importantly, Annerley Rd also requires a service.

A proper 105 should suffice.  Get the other all stopping routes consolidated, or onto the busway - no need for the 202 or 116 to be doing inner city pickups.

There was a thread about that a short while ago, here: http://railbotforum.org/mbs/index.php?topic=5681.0

Definitely agree about the 202, that may be the weirdest route in BrisVegas.

116 I am somewhat ambivalent about.  I don't think it makes much difference either way.  Traffic congestion on Ipswich Rd is likely to be worse than Annerley Rd on average.

I guess it is the same with the 112 and 113.  Whatever way they do it, it would nice for there to be some consistency, as opposed to present.